Location:: https://meet.google.com/nbd-nkoh-yws startTime:: 11am MT Date:: 2024-05-10
Matt Simpson
11:11 AM
Fun fact: Finland has one of the lowest cyber security incidents because of nation-wide cyber security policies.
Doc Searls
11:11 AM
Sorry to be late. I was actually headed for a plane, but it just got delayed a few hours.
I also just posted this: https://doc.searls.com/2024/05/10/personal-vs-personalized/
Reza Rassool
11:11 AM
welcome Doc
Doc Searls
11:14 AM
I’m pretty sure I was at the first MyData, when it was an event in Helskinki.
Alex Seregin
11:15 AM
The idea is to advocate for implementing policies at government/municipal level, right?
Cam Geer
11:16 AM
need privacy, provable provenance and verifiable authenticity
Chuck Chekuri
11:17 AM
Hi Markus, Thank you for sharing your organization’s goals and activities. I am definitely aligned with those and there are many problems this solves. I am curious how you defined the main “Problem Statement” for your organization. Thanks, Chuck.
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Matt Simpson
11:21 AM
Sorry, I have to head back to a course that I’m in today. See you next week.
Toby Morning
11:22 AM
If you are a new member, please share your Linked In profile here http://linkedin.com/in/urbantech/
Debbie Codinach
11:22 AM
We will make the deck available after the call.
Abu Chan
11:24 AM
Thanks Toby for inviting ! https://www.linkedin.com/in/boucetta-abderahmane/
Chuck Chekuri
11:25 AM
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ChuckChekuri
Shiv Verma
11:29 AM
Today marks my inaugural attendance at this meeting. I find the presence of such esteemed members and the global nature of this gathering truly inspiring. As an emerging scientist, I am eager to contribute to any project or seize any internship opportunity that may arise. Please do not hesitate to inform me of any such prospects. You can find more about my background and qualifications on my LinkedIn profile. https://www.linkedin.com/in/shiv-verma-aa047b2ab/ Thank you for your consideration.
Toby Morning
11:30 AM
Shiv - Please sign up on http;//www.kwaai.ai and you will be added to the new member on boarding call.
You can also join the next call where we discuss more freestyle exchange of ideas and projects we are working on.
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Toby Morning
11:31 AM
http://meet.google.com/scm-uvau-dnw
Chuck Chekuri
11:31 AM
@Reza, This is awesome. Are Lumi and Penny open source? Can anyone build their own personal AI?
Toby Morning
11:32 AM
Chuck - The PAI OS is open, you can see http://paios.org
Daniel Wilson
11:32 AM
I’m in hackademia 😅
Chuck Chekuri
11:32 AM
Thank you Toby. i am new here and still learning!
Daniel Wilson
11:32 AM
Great work, Toby!!!
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12:04 PM
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Marcus Hallside
12:04 PM
Sorry Reza - I will have to leave in 5 -10 mins
Doc Searls
12:04 PM
I only have a short time, because my departure time for a plane just moved up after moving back. Meanwhile, I just posted this: https://doc.searls.com/2024/05/10/personal-vs-personalized/
It’s a story. It is also one angle on an approach to funding pitches.
Karsten Wade
12:06 PM
what would you like to learn from the non ghost towns?
Karsten Wade
12:07 PM
I’m big on KwaaiOS being first to market with the people’s intentcast network
Doc Searls
12:08 PM
Among successes, the Apache Foundation is a solid one: https://apache.org/
Rhiannon Gallagher
12:08 PM
If you use a TEAL organization model and think of it as an ecosystem rather than a network, you give it space for things to come in and out, expand and evolve, using a biological metaphor.
Doc Searls
12:09 PM
The Open Source Initiative is a thing: https://opensource.org/community It has gone through a lot of iterations, but has persistance and some community.
Brian Larsen
12:10 PM
Structure around this reminds me of MUD in the early 90s. Same universe, separate “guilds”, where your contribution earns you credits, access, tools, etc. and gives you a community in a community
Doc Searls
12:10 PM
There is a lot of stuff in this list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_organizations
Rhiannon Gallagher
12:10 PM
Yes, Brian! Me too!
Debbie Codinach
12:10 PM
@rhiannon yes and yes.
Doc Searls
12:11 PM
Kwaai belongs on that list.
Daniel Wilson
12:11 PM
💯
Doc Searls
12:12 PM
Kwaai needs a bunch of stuff written about it to earn a page in Wikipedia, but that shouldn’t be hard to get going.
Debbie Codinach
12:12 PM
Go for it Doc!
I am right behind you.
Doc Searls
12:12 PM
Yay on software as a product, since SaaS is most of what we’re up against from the Bigs.
Sam Johnston (samj)
12:14 PM
https://doc.searls.com/2024/05/10/personal-vs-personalized/
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12:15 PM
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Karsten Wade
12:16 PM
there are dozens and dozens of highly successful Open Source-based foundations, and a few orders of magnitude more than that of purely successful projects with less formal ecosystems
Markus Petteri Laine
12:16 PM
Finnish contirbution for the sustainable community process: Sustainable community 101: 1. The Vision 2. The Mission 3. The Goals 4. The Rules and regulations 5. The Means to an End 6. The Rhythm 7. The Vibe 8. The Roles 9. Recognition 10. The share of the spoils
Karsten Wade
12:17 PM
a practical checklist for Open Source projects: https://www.theopensourceway.org/the_open_source_way-guidebook-2.0.html#_new_project_checklist
Rhiannon Gallagher
12:20 PM
This is the basics of TEAL, which is why I think it blends well with Open Source:
- Self management, Wholeness, and Evolutionary Purpose.
Karsten Wade
12:21 PM
I worked with Lavonne a short time as I was ramping down my work with IEEE SA Open and she was coming in
Debbie Codinach
12:22 PM
Happy birthday Sam!
You
12:26 PM
Anyone syncing their research with Obsidian.md?
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Zachary, what were you thinking for organizing your ecosystem research?
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Sreeprad
12:27 PM
I shifted to notion for editing & sub-pages ease.
Zachary Schenkler
12:29 PM
What about a WASM-based approach
Karsten Wade
12:29 PM
I’ve got a second-half to the question, thanks
related to all the things here: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/red-hat-summit-newsroom
You
12:34 PM
AGPL-3.0 licensed LocalAI Plugin I use and demo: https://github.com/logancyang/obsidian-copilot
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Zachary Schenkler
12:34 PM
** I’ll do a simple Google doc to start until a solution is approved and we can transfer there. Notion is offering up to $6K credits with their AI writer as well.
Karsten Wade
12:36 PM
Granite LLM is Open Source AI aiui
Karsten Wade
12:37 PM
Sam, you demonstrated the pAI-OS hybrid-portability for sure
You
12:37 PM
Please share Google Doc start with bensonbeachboys@gmail.com, especially if you are interested in including local-first options. I loved Notion for years, but they wont be able to keep up with the open source ecosystem of plugins and open portable formats like markdown within https://obsidian.md IMO
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Karsten Wade
12:38 PM
Benson I missed where you are located, if you shared?
in other words, Sam, you are making it possible for me to be the Fedora packager of pAI-OS :D
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You
12:42 PM
Physically located between Utah-Idaho at the moment. You can find my Ai Resume and more at https://share.note.sx/i5urvww7#4JOumoJkHb37VkxWzjrn2MQIBWLCzB5ihwUOiegSxYY EncryptedByDefault // Notice the decrypt key in the URL
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Zachary Schenkler
12:42 PM
where’s Sams AI?
Debbie Codinach
12:42 PM
paris
Karsten Wade
12:43 PM
@urbantech
Karsten Wade
12:46 PM
Lightning?
Adebayo Mubarak
12:46 PM
However the cost differ depending on the chains
And also there is a batch send that could cost few cent or maximum 2-3$ on Base network or polygon chain
Cam Geer
12:47 PM
paypal / venmo
Karsten Wade
12:49 PM
A POV on bounties and paying Open Source maintainers: https://blog.tidelift.com/paying-maintainers-the-howto
Markus Petteri Laine
12:52 PM
Thank you guys! Keep on keeping on. Friday night 10PM here. See you next time. Drop me a line if you want to discuss the MyData case in more detail! https://www.linkedin.com/in/markuspetterilaine/
EMILIANO’s OtterPilot
12:52 PM
Some key takeaways from this meeting include: - Sam provided an update on the progress of PI iOS, including moving to an object-oriented approach and adding documentation. - There was discussion around edge computing and deploying PI iOS abilities to edge devices like NAS drives. - The group discussed defining what a “personal AI” is and differentiating it from personalized AI offered by large companies. - Ideas were proposed for syndicating Kwaai content to other platforms and cutting vid
Abdulrahman’s OtterPilot
12:53 PM
Takeaways from the meeting 👉💬 [ ] Zachary to create an edge computing research document. (Zachary) [ ] Sam to add UrbanTech to the PI iOS repository on GitHub to contribute documentation. (Sam) [ ] Sam and Carsten to schedule a follow up call with Swiss Vault. (Sam) [ ] Doc to share blog post on personal vs personalized AI with the group. (Doc) See full summary - https://otter.ai/u/56tNN6TjlSYjmb9MmjSSY1yqkkA?utm_source=va_chat&utm_content=wrapup_v4&tab=chat&message=2b414f70-d59a-4215-bf53-
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